What a Difference 1 Sword Can Make - Guild Wars Forums

Bragg Madaxe · Aug 03, 2005, 01:43 PM // 13:43

If you've read my "What am I doing wrong" post here about my unhappiness with my weak warrior, you know I wasn't doing much damage with the sword drop I got in the game.

Well, no more!

Last night, I purchased a Fiery Dragon Sword from someone for 250 gold. No bonuses on it, just a straight 14-19 damage. That's almost 2 times the damage that my previous sword was doing, but the advantage of my previous sword was it came with a bunch of health and other bonus stuff-this one just does the damage, nothing more.

Anyway, this new sword is regularly doing 30-60 points of damage per hit, which brings up my question-

If it says 14-19, and I customized it for an additional 20% damage, it should only be doing about 18-23 damage, right? How is it doing 30-60 points of damage each hit? Is it because I have 9 on my swordsmanship attribute, and the sword only requires 7?

I'm very happy with my warrior now, lol.

Bragg

Mr. Matt · Aug 03, 2005, 01:50 PM // 13:50

I think that's pretty much it. That, and your overall level. This has some explanations: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content...nics-id674.php

If you're hitting Ice Golems or something with it, by the way, they will definitely take extra damage because such creatures don't like fire damage. I think that fire damage is actually doubled on ice monsters.

Oh, be prepared for a flurry of people telling you how crap Fiery Dragon Swords are. You can safely ignore them.

Bragg Madaxe · Aug 03, 2005, 01:57 PM // 13:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Matt

Oh, be prepared for a flurry of people telling you how crap Fiery Dragon Swords are. You can safely ignore them.

Thanks, for the advice-appreciate it. For the price I paid, and the sudden glee I get going on every mission, it's safe to say I WILL ignore the naysayers.

Bragg

kalaris · Aug 03, 2005, 02:52 PM // 14:52

ummm if you already got to 9 there are collector items in the desert that are max damage, (15-22) and offer some bonus's in stance/while enchanted, let me see if I have the materials to get you one, free of charge,

<-- Kalaris Runeblade in Game

and for PvE "Firy Dargon sowrds" are fine... in upper tier PvP I'd be calling you a noob =P

I'm slacking off at work at the moment, but I'll be home at about ummm 6est if you want one free.

<edit>

I have plent of free matierals laying about to make the following :

Long sword
(slashing dmg:15-22, +15dmg while in stance, req. 9 swordsmanship)

It looks like the "Rinblade" you get from some of the quests (like piken square)

Algren Cole · Aug 03, 2005, 02:56 PM // 14:56

you can salvage one of the upgrades from your old sword using an Expert Salvage kit as long as it wasn't a collectors item or an item recieved from completing a quest...which you said it wasn't. You have no choice as to which upgrade you get (or if you'll even get one) but its worth a try if you aren't using the sword anymore. Then you can apply the upgrade you liked from your old sword to your new sword.

For Swords it's either a Hilt or a Pommel.

Caelus The Fallen: I actually had no idea you couldn't change the hilt on a Dragon Sword. thanks

Caelus The Fallen · Aug 03, 2005, 03:02 PM // 15:02

Its worth noting, however, that you cant change the hilt on a Dragon Sword.

Chrono Cross · Aug 03, 2005, 04:26 PM // 16:26

You actually can change the hilt I think, theres an upgrade called fiery sword hilt I think, something along that at least.

Hate · Aug 03, 2005, 04:37 PM // 16:37

You CANT change the hilt because thats the whole point of it being a FIERY dragon sword, it already hast a fiery hilt on it which CANT be changed.

Bragg Madaxe · Aug 03, 2005, 05:21 PM // 17:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by kalaris

I'm slacking off at work at the moment, but I'll be home at about ummm 6est if you want one free.

<edit>

I have plent of free matierals laying about to make the following :

Long sword
(slashing dmg:15-22, +15dmg while in stance, req. 9 swordsmanship)

Wow, thanks for the offer! I work 2 jobs, so unfortunately, I won't be home until around 11PM (EST). But I'll definitely be on after 11pm or tomorrow after 8pm.
Appreciate the offer!
Bragg

Lynnrose · Aug 03, 2005, 07:04 PM // 19:04

To correct a misstatement above, it does not give a bonus if your swordsmanship rating is 9 while the req for the sword you are using is 7. If the req were 8 or 9, you'd be doing the same damage. You do, however, have higher damage if you have a 9 swords rating rather than a 7 or 8 swords rating. The important distinction is to compare relative swordsmanship (or other attribute) ratings to each other, not what they are in relation to the req on a weapon -- as long as you meet the req for a weapon, you're good.

Aug 03, 2005, 01:43 PM // 13:43	#1
Bragg Madaxe Academy Page Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: lyzrdstomp.com Guild: Lyzrd's Tale Profession: Mo/N	What a Difference 1 Sword Can Make If you've read my "What am I doing wrong" post here about my unhappiness with my weak warrior, you know I wasn't doing much damage with the sword drop I got in the game. Well, no more! Last night, I purchased a Fiery Dragon Sword from someone for 250 gold. No bonuses on it, just a straight 14-19 damage. That's almost 2 times the damage that my previous sword was doing, but the advantage of my previous sword was it came with a bunch of health and other bonus stuff-this one just does the damage, nothing more. Anyway, this new sword is regularly doing 30-60 points of damage per hit, which brings up my question- If it says 14-19, and I customized it for an additional 20% damage, it should only be doing about 18-23 damage, right? How is it doing 30-60 points of damage each hit? Is it because I have 9 on my swordsmanship attribute, and the sword only requires 7? I'm very happy with my warrior now, lol. Bragg

Aug 03, 2005, 02:52 PM // 14:52	#4
kalaris Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005 Guild: Warrior Nation [WN] Profession: W/N	ummm if you already got to 9 there are collector items in the desert that are max damage, (15-22) and offer some bonus's in stance/while enchanted, let me see if I have the materials to get you one, free of charge, <-- Kalaris Runeblade in Game and for PvE "Firy Dargon sowrds" are fine... in upper tier PvP I'd be calling you a noob =P I'm slacking off at work at the moment, but I'll be home at about ummm 6est if you want one free. <edit> I have plent of free matierals laying about to make the following : Long sword (slashing dmg:15-22, +15dmg while in stance, req. 9 swordsmanship) It looks like the "Rinblade" you get from some of the quests (like piken square) Last edited by kalaris; Aug 03, 2005 at 02:56 PM // 14:56..

Aug 03, 2005, 02:56 PM // 14:56	#5
Algren Cole Banned Join Date: Jun 2005	you can salvage one of the upgrades from your old sword using an Expert Salvage kit as long as it wasn't a collectors item or an item recieved from completing a quest...which you said it wasn't. You have no choice as to which upgrade you get (or if you'll even get one) but its worth a try if you aren't using the sword anymore. Then you can apply the upgrade you liked from your old sword to your new sword. For Swords it's either a Hilt or a Pommel. Caelus The Fallen: I actually had no idea you couldn't change the hilt on a Dragon Sword. thanks Last edited by Algren Cole; Aug 03, 2005 at 03:20 PM // 15:20..

Aug 03, 2005, 01:50 PM // 13:50	#2
Mr. Matt Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Profession: R/Mo	I think that's pretty much it. That, and your overall level. This has some explanations: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/content...nics-id674.php If you're hitting Ice Golems or something with it, by the way, they will definitely take extra damage because such creatures don't like fire damage. I think that fire damage is actually doubled on ice monsters. Oh, be prepared for a flurry of people telling you how crap Fiery Dragon Swords are. You can safely ignore them.

Aug 03, 2005, 03:02 PM // 15:02	#6
Caelus The Fallen Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Glasgow Guild: Voice of the Darkness Profession: E/Mo	Its worth noting, however, that you cant change the hilt on a Dragon Sword.

Aug 03, 2005, 04:26 PM // 16:26	#7
Chrono Cross Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2005 Profession: Mo/N	You actually can change the hilt I think, theres an upgrade called fiery sword hilt I think, something along that at least.

Aug 03, 2005, 04:37 PM // 16:37	#8
Hate Academy Page Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Lions Arch	You CANT change the hilt because thats the whole point of it being a FIERY dragon sword, it already hast a fiery hilt on it which CANT be changed.

Aug 03, 2005, 07:04 PM // 19:04	#10
Lynnrose Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2005 Guild: SoF Victrix [SoF]	To correct a misstatement above, it does not give a bonus if your swordsmanship rating is 9 while the req for the sword you are using is 7. If the req were 8 or 9, you'd be doing the same damage. You do, however, have higher damage if you have a 9 swords rating rather than a 7 or 8 swords rating. The important distinction is to compare relative swordsmanship (or other attribute) ratings to each other, not what they are in relation to the req on a weapon -- as long as you meet the req for a weapon, you're good.